And Still Flying...: The Life and Times of Elizabeth "Betty" Wall

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The fascinating story of one of our nation's "Fly Girls". The Women Airforce Service Pilots of WWII flew every P-47 off the factory line in 1944. They flew 60,000,000 miles of operational flights and 77 different types of military aircraft including the B-29 during the years 1934-1944.

Elizabeth "Betty" Wall was one of these 1,074 W.A.S.P.S. who served their country well during the course of the war. She went on to raise a family of 5 during the 50's and 60's (5 kids in 5 years) and became a statistical researcher with the American Cancer Society.

Elizabeth "Betty" Wall flew an F-16 at age 71 and first piloted at B-17 at age 82! And she is still going strong at 83. This is the story of her life that so far spans nearly a century: from the "Roaring Twenties" and the "Great Depression" through WWII, the 60's and 70's to the present day.

Wall is a member of the Minnesota Aviation Hall of Fame and received the Immortal Chaplain's Humanitarian Award representing all Women Service Volunteers of WWII. She introduced Mr. Tom Browkow at the celebration dedicating a Veteran's Museum at the Hormel Plant in Austin, Minnesota. She is an energetic octogenarian who finds every day a golden opportunity to enjoy God's gifts.

Immerse yourself in the stories of a remarkable life and learn more about one of the people that we have to thank for the remarkable age we are now living in. Comments

"...It was great to seek you again recently. You are a remarkable person and a Minnesota treasure! Thanks for your service." Tim Pawlenty
Governor of Minnesota

"Elizabeth Strohfus is an incredible person. She has had opportunities to do and see things that many of us only dream about. It is amazing to look at the accomplishments she has achieved over a lifetime and it is an honor to know her. Elizabeth is a star that continues to burn bright and is full of more energy than most teenagers. Who else can say they have flown an F-16 at age 71 and a B-17 at age 82?" Jon Velishek
Historian, Rice County Historical Society, Faribault, Minnesota

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George Mercer Dawson worked for the International Boundary Commission and the Geological Survey of Canada. He surveyed the 49th parallel, vast tracts of land in British Columbia's Interior, and many rivers in the Yukon. He knew the value of the Klondike gold fields ten years before the rush of '98.

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Classic political process book.......2006-12-19

Perhaps only Showdown at Gucci Gulch matches The System for a true focus on how big-time policy really gets enacted - or doesn't as the Clinton health care drive shows. Whereas the Gucci Gulch focused on Reagan's 1986 tax policy overhaul success, The System follows President Clinton's efforts to revamp healthcare in America. What makes The System more representative of the political process than Gucci Gulch is that healthcare reform failed. Because of Clinton management inexperience, and Gingrich "coagulation" and scare tactics, healthcare reform never happened. That may be for the better. Clinton's plan left little to be desired, though it was not the "socialized medicine" that the right claimed it was. Still, that does not mean it was a worthy plan. The real problem, however, that scoring political success for both sides trumped the search for wise policy. Most everyone at the outset agreed that there was something wrong with healthcare, but change failed to occur. And no one is absolved of blame by Johnson and Broder: the President, First Lady, the wider Administration, Congress, the press, interest groups, and the public all allowed this to happen. Again, that doesn't mean that Clinton's plan should have been adopted, but something could have been done to better deal with the many healthcare problems plaguing the nation.

Regardless, The System is a must-read for anyone who wants to see American politics as it really exists.

CREDIBLE?.......2001-09-08

I read this book a few years ago as a requirement for my Master's degree in public administration. I read along with interest because the story that unfolded read like some sort of sordid drama, like something you might see on prime time television. It had suspense, intrigue, and some of the most stunning ups and downs. And all this from a book that attempts to comprehensively explain the hopeful beginnings and hopeless endings of the Clintons' (both Bill and more specifically Hillary) attempts to implement universal health care in the United States. Think back, if you will, to the campaign promises Bill Clinton made in his first campaign. He vowed to fight for universal health care. Many Americans like this idea, but when it comes right down to it, most Americans do not trust the government to provide their health care and also feel that government intervention in private health care makes the system... socialist. Bill wanted to change this, and when he was elected, he appointed his wife, Hillary, to chair a committee to research and implement this new universal health care system. However, this was his first mistake. The American people at that time were very suspicious and skeptical of Mrs. Clinton, feeling that she did not embody what a First Lady should be. They also felt that she had demonstrated no real qualifications for this appointment. The writers of this book document the controversies and problems brilliantly. I felt confident about the facts... until I was happily reading along (the book, despite its daunting length, reads through smoothly and quickly) and found a most glaring and heinous error. The writers were discussing the positions of Fred Grandy, who, after leaving television, went on to represent his home state of Iowa in Congress. We all know Fred Grandy as Gopher on the tv show Love Boat. But this book said that he had been a star on the show Gilligan's Island! I started to exercise real doubt and skepticism about a book that managed to get through all stages of editing with such an easily spotted error on its pages. Whatever the case, if you want to know how the plan was formed and how it was unraveled quite easily not just by opposition Republicans but also by Hillary herself, you should indeed read this. Hillary and her policy wonk friend Ira Magaziner had many opportunities to compromise on some of the points in their health care plan which would have made it an easier sell to Republicans. In fact many Republicans offered to work with Hillary and Magaziner, but the stubborn duo insisted on having the plan intact... and ended up getting nothing. As did the American people.

Our rulers speak. Pay attention, proles!.......2001-06-21

If you read this book in the wrong frame of mind, you won't like it. The wrong frame is to believe that it consists of honest reporting about the U.S. health care system, and the Clinton health bill of `93. It's mainly not reporting. It's advocacy.

The key is found in the intro, where the authors define "The System" that rules USAmerica -- which includes the Presidency, the Congress, the media ... AHH! The fact that they think the media is part of the govt., just not elected, is itself worth the price of this volume.

Taken in this vein, it is quite good. We must have a national health system like a European country's , because ... well, because they feel embarrassed that we aren't like Europe. That the U.S. was settled, predominantly, by people who WANTED NOT TO LIVE IN EUROPE is unimportant to Johnson and Broder, who know better than to take the this self-govt. nonsense seriously.

What is serious is that the USAmerican public rejects 'socialized medicine.' So instead Clinton wrapped it up in his mess of a bill, and then tried to scare us into panic over our health care, saying the system would collapse if we didn't give control of it to the govt. Not true, and Johnson & Broder know it, but hey, can't let truth stand in the way of ruling.

Frequently THE SYSTEM is unintentionally funny, too, as when the authors take a break from reporting the `horse race' political aspects of the story to criticize the media for concentrating on the `horse race' instead of the policy substance, after which they trash the only attempt ever made to discuss the policy substance (Elizabeth McCaughey's famous piece in The New Republic) and go back to reporting the horse race. You sort of wonder if they read their own manuscript.

But have some sympathy. They do mention the policy substance from time to time -- our rulers think we spend far too much money on foolish things like attempting to save the lives of premature infants. Those resources should go to more important things, like health care for "homeless, drug abusing gay and bisexual men of color." I mean, would you want to defend THAT openly?

It's also very useful in assessing the nature of liberal bias in the press. The last chapter of the hardcover first edition, on sale in 1996, told us about good Pres. Clinton's attempts to `save' the federal budget before runaway health care spending wrecked it, and evil House Speaker Newt Gingrich's attempts to `cut health care spending,' when in both cases they were trying to do the same thing -- cut the rate at which spending on health care would increase in the future. That's one way you bias coverage -- describing things in such a way as to create the desired reaction, which in this case was to get us to run out and vote Democratic.

The last chapter of this paperback edition mentions the Kassenbaum-Kennedy bill, passed by Congress and signed by Clinton. All mention of it was carefully left out of the first edition. That's another way of biasing coverage -- leave out the `unimportant' stuff that might confuse the citizenry.

And if you practice your critical thinking skills as you read, you will learn a lot about the chaotic way Clinton ran his administration, how the Democrats lost control of the House after twenty straight wins, why the bill was so complex, and other fascinating stuff.

What you won't learn how the Clinton health plan would have worked, of course. Obviously, they were afraid of your reaction if you found out. That is probably the most important information in the book.

Stunning inside look at politics.......2000-01-07

The Clinton Health Care plan was a bold, dramatic attempt to transform the American health care system to take into account the fact that while America may provide the best health care in the world, far too many of its citizens are unable to afford it. Clinton's attempt, probably the most dramatic attempt at a government program since the Great Society, failed miserably and helped to elect a Republican Congress.

The battle the voters didn't see was the important one- the battle which nearly sank the Clinton Presidency and destroyed its ambitious health care proposal. The powers arrayed against the Clinton plan were formidable and well-financed, aided by the Administration's mind-numbing blunders.

"The System" has the entire story- the high hopes, the stunning reversals, the industry's toxic reaction to reform. The Clintonites quickly found that the old adage is true. No good deed goes unpunished.

"The System" is a very good book at who really calls the shots in American government and how little power people really have against the special interests. More valuable than ten years of civics lessons.

Shows Politics As the Messy But Necessary Evil It Is.......1999-12-30

This is an excellent book for any student of the political process.

The authors are biased. They believe the Hillary Clinton health care plan should have been enacted and present their study from this point of view. Their slant is annoying. However, it ultimately does not detract too much from a very able telling of the conceptualization, selling, manuevering and strategy employed by both sides over the struggle to socialize medicine in the United States.

Although never pretty or highminded as we are taught in civics class, the book shows a democratic (small "d") system at work. Both sides had true believers who were guided by philosophy and were trying to do what was "right." Both sides had craven opportunists driven by darker more mercurial instincts. The American Congress worked to examine the issue and resolve the dispute as the framers had intended: by providing a forum for parties on both sides of the debate to hash out their perspectives and come to a resolution (one must always keep in mind that an equally legitimate action of any legislative body is to say no to proposals that are unwise or do not have sufficient political support.)

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Title: The System: The American Way of Politics at the Breaking Point.
Author: John Rouse
Publication: Policy Studies Journal (Refereed)
Date: December 22, 1997
Publisher: Policy Studies Organization
Volume: v25 Issue: n4 Page: p655(5)

Article Type: Book Review

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Haynes; Broder, David S. Johnson
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By far the best book of its kind.......1998-12-25

I have lots of cook books but this is my new favorite hands down. I wish there were cards of the recipies so I could pick a random card and have a great dinner. Michele has done it again!

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Loved the photos, did not care for the text.......2001-05-05

Very attractive book, with plenty of great photos and what looks like delectable recipes. However, the text accompanying the images let me down at times because it was corny and somewhat cliched. Their suggestions for potluck motifs come to mind. "A Night under the Stars" would feature pate squares with celebrity names written under tiny handprints (!), or maybe cauliflower and asparagus representing shooting stars. The section on Passalong Plants was also written in that same slightly banal tone, with comments about how forgetful you must be trying to push some daylilies onto your neighbor, when she was the one who gave them to you in the first place, just a few years ago.

The overall tone of the book is at odds with the polished image it projects. This is not so much a utilitarian book as it is a "lifestyle" book. If you need help deciding how to design a garden path or what to do if your seedlings are damping off, this is not going to be of much help. But if you want some ideas as to what looks good and how to be a bit of a garden snob, this will be perfect.

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BRINGING HOPE & HELP TO KIDS & KIDS AT HEART.......1998-06-22

I THINK EVERY PARENT& EVERY LEARNING CHALLENGED KID&EVEN KID AT HEART SHOULD READ THIS & ITS RELATED KIDS BOOK!!THOSE LEARNING CHALLENGED ADULTS WHO LIKE 12STEP (IE ACOA) BOOKS WILL ESPECIALLY FIND IT COMFORTING & SOOTHING TO READ,ADDIE SANDERS HAS DONE A MARVELOUS JOB IN UNDERSTANDING THE LITTLE KID IN ALL OF US-MYSELF INCLUDED!I'D BE DELIGHTED TO SPEAK WITH ANYONE WHO HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AS I HAVE BEEN DR L'S DYSLEXIC/ADHD PATIENT SINCE 9/84-PRESENT& HAVE DONE GREAT!!! IN FACT,I NOW LIKE SCHOOL SO MUCH THAT I'VE NEARLY COMPLETED MY 2ND MASTERS DEGREE WITH A 3.9 GPA WHILE WORKING FULLTIME !!FONDLY, MARSHA LAMPERT MBA AGE 34 WANTAGH NY

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" Paradoxia reveals that Lunch is at her best when she's at her worst . . . [and] gives voice to her sometimes scary, frequently funny, always canny, never sentimental siren song."-Barbara Kruger, Artforum

Lydia Lunch relays in graphic detail the true psychic repercussions of sexual misadventure. From New York to London to New Orleans, Paradoxia is an uncensored, novelized account of one woman's assault on men.

Lydia Lunch was the primary instigator of the No Wave Movement and the focal point of the Cinema of Transgression. A musician, writer, and photographer, she exposes the dark underbelly of passion confronting the lusty demons whose struggle for power and control forever stalk the periphery of our collective obsessions.

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Ready for a Kick in the Head?.......2004-06-10

If you are not familiar with Lydia Lunch, then you may be in for a rude awakening. Lydia's specialty is brutality - brutal honesty, brutal emotions, and a brutal no-nonsense delivery. She revels in kicking down pre-fabricated houses of illusion and letting the cold harsh light of day in to expose all festering wounds, withering sins and those nasty little trolls that like to hide in the shadows. Her imagery is an assault to the more refined senses. Jane Austen she's not.

I've heard this book described as fiction, then as non-fiction, then as a fictionalized autobiography. I don't think it matters, really, because it's all true somewhere, in some way, to somebody. Tales of people abusing other people, abusing themselves, struggling to crawl out of the gutter only to stumble right back in. Messed-up heads, bruised hearts, ravished souls, all going around in circles reliving the same nightmare over and over again. Some survive, some don't, some break free while others pray for salvation. And there's Lydia declaring that if you want saving then you gotta do it yourself. Wake-up and smell the stench, folks.

Some accuse her of possessing no compassion, no humanity, no sense of beauty. But I think it's there, just painted in various shades of gray instead of the black or white to which many are accustomed. It's there, just raw and aching and unadorned. Sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind.

Sick And Twisted.......2003-01-09

I can't remember where I first heard of Lydia Lunch. Maybe it was in "Our Band Could Be Your Life". All that I know is that whatever I read intrigued me enough to want to learn more about her. I did a little research online, found this book, and asked for it for Christmas.

I should've known something would be a little off with this book when my Mom gave me a note with the book saying how she couldn't believe that I got her to buy this book. But being the good sport that she is, she still got the book for me. Go Madre!

Within about one page of this book I realized that it probably wasn't the kind of booking I was looking to read. I thought I was going to be in for a biography of someone I had hoped would give me more insight into punk music and the punk ideals of her time. What I got was the story of a girl who took out her hate of herself and her life on many, many men (and women).

In essence, Lydia Lunch was the type of girl that all of the other girls hated. She'd steal their boyfriends from right in front of them, take them to the bathroom, have her way with them and send them right back to when she was done. She's the girl that the guys wanted for their girl in High School because she put out. She's NOT the girl they brought home to show Mom, she was the girl they brought around when Mom wasn't home.

This book basically covers the various messed up relationships and sexual escapades that Lydia had had throughout her life. Whatever freaky thing you are into, whether it's as extreme as S&M or as mild as plain ole normal sex, this book covers it all. It even covers some stuff you probably haven't even heard about yet. I don't even really know how else to describe this book. There might be one or two pages in the book that don't deal with sex... maybe... I'd give some examples of some of the nastier things in this book, but I'm keeping this place PG-13 for now.

Another disappoint was that the cover claimed that "No names were changed because no one is innocent." I took this to mean that I was at least going to get some nice gossip on some punk stars that would shock me, but I think that sleeping with a musician was only mentioned one-time during the whole book!

But the book isn't all bad, after all I did read it all in just a few sittings. One of the highlights were the tales of her exploits in California with her adrenaline-seeking boyfriend of the moment. You just had the feeling that by the end of that doomed relationship something big was going to happen. Nobody died, but there was some serious damage done and I can't even imagine how either made it out of the relationship with their sanity. I don't know why, but it was nice to read about the dysfunction of others.

After reading this book, you'll find yourself thinking that it's pretty amazing that Lydia Lunch even survived to write this book. You'll probably also find yourself thinking that you can't even believe half of what you just read. How could anybody live such a crazy life and not either A) Die or B) Be commited or jailed.

If you are into the more perverted and twisted side of life, this is the book for you. If you are looking to learn more about the life of a famed punk icon, you might want to do like I'm going to and try another one of her books.

Amazing Book........2001-02-28

This book is a must have for any fan of Lydia's work. I really think it's some best writing to date.

Modern Adventure Story.......2000-12-20

An adventure story is not like cartoons on Saturday morning. An adventure is truly dangerous and forces the participants to face their worst fears in exchange for pain, enlightenment, joy, freedom, and a new set of treacherous obstacles.

Lydia Lunch brings us along her twisted sexual landscape in Paradoxia where everything is allowed to the point where it almost kills her and others die or episodes of extreme ecstasy and pleasure transpire. What she achieves through the series of violence, sex, and psychosis is what we all should be trying to do instead of working some job.

She illustrates the consequences of living an autonomous life, thereby refusing the status quo and security of the "straight life" in exchange for living life to its extreme boundaries of death, pain, and suffering. And where has it all gotten her? Well, I believe she's what you call an artist.

Paradoxia is also partially a documentation (and I assume everything she is saying is basically true) of New York in the late 70's and L.A. into the early 80's when artists still had a chance to be just that instead of working 40+ hours/wk just to pay rent. She was living an adventure not a routine, and paying for it every step of the way. In return she received her personal freedom, which simply meant continuous struggle with either other people or her own mind. Life ain't easy.

Paradoxia stands as a constant reminder to continually recreate your life, to live it as an adventure, in order to retain control of it from your psychotic lover, your totalitarian government, or your own personal demons.

Edgier than I expected, so raw it's still steaming.......2000-01-03

I was given this book as a Christmas present from my parents. Those of you who've read it will know how incredibly ludicrous that is. Of course, I requested it for Christmas not knowing what to expect, and they being none the wiser purchased it. If they only knew . . . But the book itself was much more than I expected and much less than I expected. Its graphic recount of Lydia's experiences is almost nauseating -- I found myself thoroughly disgusted with her, which is something great because it takes A LOT to disgust me. But I was compelled to read on, finishing it within two days (for it is a rather short read). It's like sick fascination -- when you're drawn to watch, in horror and in wonder, the mutilated remains of a car wreck victim being scraped off the road. I couldn't bring myself to stop reading. I wanted to know if she'd found some sort of redemption, had any sort of revelataion, or had come to terms with her rage. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Lydia is a woman after my own heart -- not because of what she's done or how she thinks, but because of her need for expression and to purge her mind. In Paradoxia she's done this with such brutal honesty you have to at least respect her for it. Even if you still hate her by the end of the book, you'll appreciate what she's just given you -- a little slice of her viscuous soul.

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Before becoming Chief of Police in Wellfleet, Massachusetts, Richard Rosenthal spent twenty years in the New York City Police Department, where he ran the Heavy Weapons and Undercover Weapons Training programs and, as a detective in the Bronx dealt with homicide, narcotics, and armed robbery. Before joining the NYPD, he worked for U.S. Air Force military intelligence as a Russian language specialist. Pocket Books published his two popular books of police craft, Sky Cops and K-9 Cops, as well as his novel, The Murder of Old Comrades, "a spicy police procedural about KGB assassins on the loose in Manhattan," according to The Wall Street Journal, which "put Mr. Rosenthal on the map in big-league publishing."

"A strange true tale of a Jewish NYPD cadet recruited into the department's elite intelligence unit to spy on the Jewish Defense League, offering vivid portraits of a politically incendiary era and revealing secrets of intrusive police tactics...This is a well-tuned portrait of the stress and acrimony that permeates such radical cliques, and of the lonely, paranoid personalities at their centers - and it offers insights into the radically charged violence of the early 1970s...Rosenthal has a fine eye for human detail and a cop's mordant sensibility. Altogether an exciting tale of unusual police practices, and a solid portrait of a quintessential fringe radical group inhabiting insecure, volatile times.-Kirkus Reviews (June 15, 2000)

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Dammit, this is funny!.......2005-08-09

The JDL were certainly a destructive group, but this book is fun to read because they were RIDICULOUS.
First off, they're all dentists and jewelry salesmen who pretend to be in special forces. They pick fights with mafiosos, louts, and even an off-duty soldier and get a real "zetz". Then they make homemade explosives and wind ip with no blast, just toxic gases. They fumble everything, make asses of themselves, nearly set themselves on fire and screw up the simplest things. This wasn't a job for a rookie cop. The JDL should have been investigated by the Fire Department.
Thankfully, Rosenthal doesn't get blown up or burned in any accidents (the JDL try to make napalm from petrol and soap) but he winds up protecting these shlemiels from "real" tough guys.
I saw some of these guys at the 2004 Israel Parade in NYC. They had these greasy-haired Jewish teens, in black suits and sunglasses (I'm not joking) collecting donations. It's a free country, and everyone has their way of doing things. But I wouldn't want a JDL by my side if there comes a fight.

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